Sarah Haines presses Bernie Sanders on 'Medicare-for-all' wait times amid coronavirus pandemic


The interview with Sanders comes as much of his campaign has shifted focus to COVID-19 response.
Even as accusations have sprung up recently that the Vermont senator is politicizing the COVID-19 pandemic as a means to further his platform -- he continued to highlight his Medicare for All plan on "The View," saying amid the crisis, people "should not have to worry about" their health care.
"In coming together, we got to do a couple of things. And one thing is, especially in this crisis, people should not have to worry about the cost of healthcare, they should not have to worry about whether they can afford prescription drugs, or not." Sanders told the hosts. "They should not have to worry about them the pharmaceutical industry is going to make billions of dollars by creating a vaccine that will be unaffordable for ordinary people."
"The View" guest co-host Sara Haines challenged Sen. Bernie Sanders on Wednesday, asking him about the potential wait times that his "Medicare-for-all" program would create during the coronavirus pandemic.
Sanders had touted his plan as a way to maintain health insurance coverage for people who lost their jobs during the ongoing crisis. He added that the U.S. faced a shortage of supplies despite relativey high per capita spending on health care.
"That doesn't sound like a strong public health system, the likes of which we should have," Sanders said.
"Just to push back on that a little bit," Haines replied. "[People in] Countries with universal health care routinely have to wait longer and sometimes die before receiving many of the medical treatments." She added that the coronavirus was not something people "can wait on health care for."
Sanders said he didn't accept the basic premise of Haines' argument.
"In many, many instances, other countries, for normal procedures, get health care a lot more rapidly than we do in this country," he said.
"We have areas in America right now, in rural areas for example, where you don’t have the kind of doctors you should, where hospitals are being closed down," Sanders went on. "We are paying far more for prescription drugs than other people in any other country -- in some cases, ten times more because we don't negotiate prices for prescription drugs."
"So, I don’t accept the basic premise of your argument," Sanders added. "I think the truth is that in Canada and other countries around the world, their health care systems are far more popular than our system is because the function of our system, to be honest, is to make billions of dollars in profits for the insurance companies and the drug companies, not to provide quality care to all people."
Co-host Sarah Haines said people are scared amid the coronavirus pandemic, and she said a lot of that is due to misinformation, including what's coming from the daily White House press briefings. She asked Sanders about the number one issue at the top of his mind. He turned to Trump.
"Trump from the very beginning downplayed the threat of this virus. The idea that today we have doctors and nurses in this country that do not have masks that cost 50 cents or a dollar apiece is unbelievable," he said. "Not enough ventilators, gloves, gowns. That speaks to this health care system, but right now we have to listen to the scientists."
He also continued to criticize the coronavirus response package signed by Trump just last week.
"We have the absurd situation that the recent stimulus bill compensate you for the cost of the testing that they may need for the current environment," said Sanders. "It does not come with a treatment."
He later added, "[Trump's] inaction has cost the lives of many many Americans."
Co-host Sunny Hostin asked Sanders about criticism that he was politicizing the pandemic by using it to push his sweeping health care reform.
"Should we put politics aside and all come together? Of course, we should," Sanders said. "And when we all come together, it seems to me we have to do several things. One of them is guarantee health care to all people, right now."
"The absurdity that you may be diagnosed with the coronavirus and you go into the hospital, and you spend thousands of dollars getting treated, and maybe, God willing, you come out alive, but you got a huge bill out there. He added that hundreds of thousands of people went bankrupt every year because of medically-related bills. Especially during the coronavirus crisis, Sanders said, peope should not have to worry about the cost of health care.
"They should not have to worry about whether they can afford prescription drugs or not. They should not have to worry whether the pharmaceutical industry is going to make billions of dollars by creating a vaccine that will be unaffordable to ordinary people. It must be free to all," he said.

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